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Directors Cup Champions, and the 2026 Season Starts Now

• Tim Newman & Chris Rocha • Season 5 • Episode 1

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Golfweek Amateur Tour rolls into the new year with momentum, fresh storylines, and two Directors Cup champions who brought the heat all weekend. In this episode, Tim Newman and Chris Rocha walk through the biggest updates across Golfweek Amateur Tour, including the first major tour merger of the year, new golf tournaments on the schedule, and an inside look at how champions actually close out three-day stroke-play events.

This is Amateur Golf Competition the way everyday golfers want it, honest, competitive, and full of the camaraderie that makes the Golfweek Amateur Tour the strongest Golf Community in the country.

A-FLIGHT: BRANDON PETERSON TAKES THE DIRECTORS CUP
Brandon Peterson breaks down the win, the windy final round at Hampton Hall, and the mental game required when the greens refuse to cooperate. He also drops the headline announcement: the North Central Florida Tour and Jacksonville are merging to form the North Florida Tour, with new venues, smarter routing, and a Senior Amateur Tour counterpart to match.

B-FLIGHT: SHANE McADAMS GRINDS OUT A DIRECTOR’S CUP CHAMPIONSHIP IN TAMPA
Shane McAdams joins the show to unpack his roller-coaster weekend: cold putter, sharp ball-striking, and a tee-box mix-up that would’ve derailed most players. Instead, he walked away as the B-Flight Champion and now rolls into 2026 with Tampa’s strongest schedule yet, including Ritz-Carlton Members Course and Innisbrook Copperhead.

North Florida’s New Era and Tampa’s 2026 Upgrade

  • North Florida Tour debuts with 14 stacked events.
  • Cabot Citrus Farms returns with no caddie requirement, a huge pace-of-play win.
  • New Tour Directors step in across multiple markets with fresh ideas and bigger goals.
  • Tampa, Orlando, Hilton Head, Jacksonville, every region steps up its Competitive Golf Events.

Whether you're chasing the National Championship, picking your next Golfweek Amateur Tour or Senior Amateur Tour golf tournaments, or just trying to level up your season, this episode is the perfect jump-start.

Registration for the 2026 Golfweek Amateur Tour season is officially open. https://amateurgolftour.net

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SPEAKER_06:

Guys, welcome back. Hope you all had a good Thanksgiving in El Paso. This to me is is um one of the most exciting times of the year. I know I complain a little bit about it, but but uh we're we're kicking off the 2026 season. Registration opened up on Friday, Black Friday. So if you haven't registered, what are you waiting for?

SPEAKER_04:

Right. I mean, registrations are open. Uh a lot of tours have announced their schedule. Um I have announced my dates for my to my events, not courses yet, but um working on some new ones, so I think my guys are gonna be excited, you know. Had to take some time off to eat as much turkey and cherry pie as I could and mashed potatoes.

SPEAKER_06:

I do love cherry pie.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I get my own cherry pie on Thanksgiving. My mother makes me my own, and everybody knows not to touch it.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, can you have her ship me one?

SPEAKER_04:

Um, I can have her make you one, but it may not make it to the post office. Oh, I've just that way. I've been there. And and so you same thing, same thing when I asked you about stews. You said it won't probably won't make it.

SPEAKER_06:

All right. All right, so we'll have to we'll have to to promise that they'll get there. But I can't I can't do it. I can't make that promise. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04:

No, I I I don't make promises I can't keep.

SPEAKER_06:

And you said something already that's that's kind of made me laugh. So I gotta I gotta say, so you so you've got blind dates set up.

SPEAKER_04:

You know, blind dates.

SPEAKER_06:

You you don't know who you're gonna meet on this.

SPEAKER_04:

I mean, I know who I'm gonna meet. They don't know who they're gonna meet.

SPEAKER_06:

No, they don't know yet. Okay. All right, all right. That sounds good.

SPEAKER_04:

Um I'm I'm kind of you know, I'm gonna try something different. I'm gonna save them for the 12 days of Christmas and announce them then. All right. I mean, they they know the local courses, obviously we're gonna play the local courses, but it's the other town ones that I'm I'm hoping they're gonna really, really like.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, I'm I'm excited for for 12 days of of Christmas with you guys. Um I love I love seeing it. Um I do uh I'm I'm you know I gotta tell you this. It's a little it's a little off topic, but not much. Um so you know the the the photo AI generator that we that I use, right? Um so I'm I'm doing something, I'm doing a favor for a friend of mine who who needs a a Laura, which is what we create. It's how you create how it creates these things. Basically, Alora is you upload a bunch of pictures and then it creates a model, and then you can put that model into other different pictures. Right. So I'm I'm I'm creating his Laura right now, and um I showed him one of ours when when that that we that we did, um the uh the surfing one and where we're where we're all muscled up. Uh so I can't wait wait to to get him that. Um but I am not, as far as you know, as far as you know, going to create a crystal on the shelf. I'm not, as far as you know.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh-huh. I already I'm already if it doesn't happen, I'm gonna be disappointed because I'm already expecting now. Um It's our priority made, ready to go.

SPEAKER_06:

No, it's not. Chris, I I swear I I've been busy, I had have not done it yet, but if you I mean I can I can carve out you know a little bit of time to do that, yes.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_06:

Sounds good. You know, it's uh Yeah, we we uh again it's it's one of my favorite times of the year. And just so that everybody knows, just before we jumped on this call, and Chris, I haven't even told you this, um, we just got word that uh Jennifer McCormick has completed all of her chemotherapy and she's doing really well. So I think that's a good way to start off the new year. Um we've got we've got great guests uh today. They're two directors who won the directors' cup. Um, Chris, you you're gonna have to eat a little bit a little bit later.

SPEAKER_04:

I'm a little sour about it.

SPEAKER_06:

Hey, but that's okay. I mean, you know, it's okay. But let's talk about go ahead. No, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, I was gonna say, like I tell my son when he wants to challenge me in games, you gotta let them win. Because if you don't let them win, they don't want to play with you anymore. So I gotta let the V-Flighter, you know, win one. If I went back to back, they wouldn't want to play next year.

SPEAKER_06:

So Well, Terry Lawson doesn't have any pro trouble with that. I mean, you know.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. That's a story for another day.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, let's go ahead and welcome in our our our first guest, uh Brandon Peterson from the North Central Florida Tour, our A-Flight Directors Cup champion. Brandon, congratulations and welcome to the show.

SPEAKER_02:

Thanks, Tim and Chris. Happy to be here.

SPEAKER_06:

You know, before we go any further, I do also want to say, you know, we tried to get you on the last episode, but you couldn't because you had priorities, and I'm glad you kept those priorities. So a happy anniversary, and I hope you all enjoyed yourself um on your anniversary date night.

SPEAKER_02:

Thank you so much. We even had a surprise little family photo feud this week. So it's been um a great week, and uh uh Thanksgiving's been great, and uh hope you guys had a good one. Congrats on on the book, Tim.

SPEAKER_06:

Oh, thank you so much. Yeah, it's um I I've talked a little bit about it on here. I I'm glad it's over with, and and we're we're in a different phase of that now. And um it's it's funny. I somebody's already asked me to write another one already, and and you should have seen the look on Jen's face. I I had tell me calm down, calm down. Let me let me get through this one first and do some of the things with this one first, and then we'll then we'll talk about it. But um, so yeah, but but thank you so much, Brian. I I do appreciate it.

SPEAKER_02:

You have to do a book tour first, and then you can do another book, right? Unless you do the book tour where the signings and then it's a second stage.

SPEAKER_06:

That's what I'm kind of working on. That's kind of what I'm working on, you know, and and uh get you know getting up on on a few stages, giving some keynotes and um you know make a little bit of money that way, and and then we'll then we'll talk about uh the the next one. But yeah. Oh, absolutely, it better go up. But you want to hear something that's really funny and strange, but not funny at the same time. So people who bought the book, the actual physical copy of the book, have already received it. So or or if you order it, you receive it. I still haven't gotten my copies yet. Whoa, yes. So I uh I ordered my copies, so I I ordered a bunch, right? Obviously, because I gotta have them and and and sign for people and send them out to people that have, you know, the that that that get them. Um I ordered them in the first week of November and they'll be here actually they'll be here, they'll be here in a couple days. So people who who bought the book, you know, when it went live, they already have it. Um and so Yeah. That's what you get when you're an author. You don't even get uh your your advanced copies. Well you don't get your advanced copies without the advanced copy written on it until after everybody else gets it. So you're so you're really saving them. Yeah, you're not that special. I mean, as an author, you're you're really not you're really not that special. I it it's been made very clear to me. Um but let's let's talk about you because this is what it's all about. And it I hope you you laughed when you when I replied to your text yesterday. You know, we we love Steve. Steve's awesome, but this this episode is all about you, buddy. Um you know the the a flight directors cup champion, and the picture I got Steve jumped filled in for you. Um I don't know if he's trying to take your glory or or what.

SPEAKER_02:

No, he won champ uh directors cup last year. So if he wants to think of it as a back-to-back, you know, that's where um I actually was out um with Hampton Hall being off the island. Um, I ended up having to get back home to the family and and miss the picture. But you know, I'll be a bit there for the icebreaker, and I'll bring my trophy. We'll get a nice picture that can go side by side with my hole in one off of number 17 at the icebreaker from last year. So we can go the beginning of the year is a hole in one on 17 at Harbortown, end of the year director's cup, Aflight champion. I think those will you know good settings for a beginning and end of the year.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, and and and and then start the next year off with a win in Harbor Town, and you'll be good. I mean, what would just be great? Let's just keep it rolling.

SPEAKER_02:

Just they just sent me my hole in one plaque. Oh wow. So thank you to to to the the dentist and the tour for um getting me. I'm gonna be able to go back to Harbor Town. They renovated, I think, this past year. Yeah. When we get to go back, it's kind of like you know, they're grand opening in a sense, and I think my name should be somewhere on the 17th hole plaque hole and one somewhere in the clubhouse. So look forward to go seeing that.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, it it should it should be. Yeah, and they just opened up Harbor Town really a couple a couple weeks ago. I saw uh um they did a I would I don't I wouldn't call it a special, but um they they did did a tour and and did a yeah you know kind of like a video thing of of what they did. So I'm I'm looking forward to seeing it as well. It's gonna be great.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, it's probably one of my new favorite places after the experience I had at the beginning of the year, but uh you know, I earned my way to a flat jacket eventually.

SPEAKER_06:

So good luck with that one.

SPEAKER_04:

Um yeah. We'll be rooting for that one for you.

SPEAKER_06:

So let's talk about national championship and and and and how you you uh pulled the uh director's cup out. Um obviously you played you played Hampton Hall on day three. What what were your other two courses and and tell us about those rounds?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, so we had um Country Club of Hilton Head and uh Oyster Reef. Oyster Reef, that was my um especially my second time seeing that golf course other than um a practice round. And wow, did they have it in great shape? And I've had some experience at Country Club of Hilton Head. Um, you know, Dennis has hold hosted events there, and uh it's it's a great track. Um, I felt like I really held it together the first day, which was good. Um, a lot of times it's it's easy to kind of punch your way out of it almost early. You can't win it day one, right? But you can lose it, right? And uh so I really felt like I swing and my game was there all three days, other than you know, there's you know a couple hiccups here and there. But you know, the cool thing is for all three days, I used the same ball for each day. Oh wow. So I didn't didn't lose a ball each day and and and you know, came home with the same ball I started with. So that's at least one good good sign. But um, you know, we had such a great cook course rotation this year. Um, it was really exciting to be able to have three courses in three days. And uh I don't know if we had any better weather or connection. It was nice for those golf courses. I just I was just in heaven uh playing for those three days. So it was it was a lot of fun. And um there's one day I was able to get three birdies, and and I want to say it was oyster. I was able to get three birdies on an oyster, and uh and Hampton was hard. You know, I I'm I'm gonna throw kudos out to uh Jimmy Norton for his round of 70. It was two under the Jacksonville tour at the time, and uh he just melted up the leaderboard, shot two under in A-flight, and um that day it was windy and in tough conditions, so um three still around there, and I was happy just to kind of uh inch over Tyler uh to to close the the the director's cuff, so that was a cool honor.

SPEAKER_06:

But that that's also been you know you you played two of my my three favorite courses.

SPEAKER_04:

No, all the courses are your favorites, stop blank.

SPEAKER_06:

No, Oish Reef is a good course, but it's not I I never necessarily say that's that really cracks into my my favorites, but but country club and and Hampton Hall, I I definitely talk about a lot. Um and you know, where Hampton Hall, like you said, is is generally one of the I'm doing air fingers quotes here for people, or it's generally easier. Um, but when you get that wind kicking up, like you said, I mean it's it it makes it harder because it's a lot more wide open. Um, and then you get the ball in that rough a little bit and and you can forget it.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. I really struggled with some of the wind shots out there. Um didn't really feel like I was able to get the putts to drop like I wanted to, but I can see why the champ lighters a few years ago just absolutely ate that course alive. Yeah. And um, you know, they went super low. And I think two course records are made that that week. And so it's nice. I mean, it's it's it's a course that's gettable when you're on when you're on, and uh but it's also a course that can eat you alive if you're not hitting your shots.

SPEAKER_06:

Exactly.

unknown:

Exactly.

SPEAKER_06:

So so what are you looking forward to to uh the this year with with with the tour?

SPEAKER_02:

Well, we have a fun announcement here, and that is uh the North Central Florida tour and the Jacksonville Tour are now the North Florida tour. So Steve and I are um kind of launching a new brand of tour where we have North Florida Tour, and that will match the senior North Florida tour as well, which was um formerly, I think, the Jacksonville Senior Tour, and um, and now they have the Georgia Coastal Tour up there too. So we're really excited to be able to bring um pole hosts of courses to you know what called the greater Jacksonville, south, you know, South Georgia, um, Palm Coast, you know, a little bit north of central Florida. So it's uh it's really exciting. This just kind of came about um recently, and we were Steve and I were able to put the schedule together. We think we have it finalized for about 14 events, a two-day, uh two days, and uh uh we're gonna be able to host the second annual Sunshine Uh State Regional down in Cabot Citrus Farms with the second year. Um, fun announcement there is if anybody got to play there with us last year, there was a caddy requirement. And uh in year two, there are no caddy requirements. So the nice thing is that um there was some benefit in having somebody help read your putts on your ball and give you yardages, but it also kind of held us up a little bit on a time standpoint with one caddy per foursome. And uh Cabot Farms had kind of changed their caddy situation there. So uh for the second year, we'll be able to be cadess if oh wow, that will make things a little bit more efficient and uh and cost less. So that's always a benefit.

SPEAKER_06:

So it are they gonna have caddies if if you want them?

SPEAKER_02:

I believe so. Um I don't have that confirmed yet. I I just the the overall course design was based on walking, so they were having a lot of mandatory caddy requirements, and I don't know if they're instituting the caddy requirement universally. It sounds like they're not. Okay. So they're not making us do the same thing for our uh for our event, and you know, that also is it saves in costs and sometimes time. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

unknown:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, because you know, at the our a lot of us are our best good readers on the green, right? So I think you know, we have one caddy get four different reads, and hoping that all of us hit the putt that they gave us is right or wrong or whatever, and right I think we all play our own game and we can trust our own eye. Uh but I'll never forget having you know two four putts. I had uh the roost a day two there this past year. Oh, I think my putt needs a break, or I need to uh get eat or putting. Um, you know, and but that's the way that those courses are, they're big, uh crazy greens. Uh if anybody hasn't seen anything on YouTube, it's all over YouTube um to take a look at the golf courses. But it was formerly World Woods, uh it was a six 36-hole golf course, and now you don't even see the trees that they used to have out there. Um, the property is barely recognizable from the old World Woods, and they have so many amenities out there. I mean, they're gonna be building their clubhouse, they um are gonna be getting their pool. The cottage that Steve and I stayed in was probably the most immaculate place that we've stayed. If you were to even include hotels and resorts, it was elder. Um, really impressive. And uh the other cool thing about the property is it's kind of like stream song in the sense that you have these additional things that you can do. Like um, they have bass fishing, they have archery, they have uh axe throwing, which by the way, we get to keep our pedal of the axes tournament going like we do every year. And uh we'll have it at Deer Creek Country Club in Jacksonville to kick off um our season in 2026. That's on a Monday for Martin Luther King Day and uh just after the icebreaker. That's awesome. We're we're we're looking forward to keeping the axe tradition going. And you know, like I said, come come get uh your axe throwing down and cabot too. Uh and it's also gonna be a weekend earlier than last year. So this cast season we had in the first weekend of June, and that was kind of like where they gave us the first break in um in their pricing because their their shoulder season, what they call their walking season, is pretty expensive. I think you know they're over$400 to play the golf courses. Well, we have a we have a really good rate for everybody for both golf courses, two days, um, same price as last year again, but without the caddies, and uh lots to do, and uh we'll probably have it more of like a tighter limited field. Last last year we were able to have up to 100, and I think we were around the 80 range, so we're gonna keep it at around 72 to 80 this year, and hopefully we fill it up, get a lot of people um make the full roster uh at the beginning, and uh we'll we'll do the same thing, and we're looking forward to another great season.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, we're we're always watching what you all do, what you you and Steve do is is wonderful. I love the love the trophies, love the act stuff, and and now you all are you know with it with this new combined um combined tour are gonna do great things with it. So we're looking forward to seeing it.

SPEAKER_02:

Thank you. Yeah, we're excited. Um, we're glad we were able to put everything together and um we're open to you know build a brand new community and build um you know even we have like three or four new courses that were Nerk but that were never in the system, so the golf week hadn't played yet. So wow. Uh we're excited. Yeah, we're excited to have a couple of Georgia courses um that'll be out there in Jekyll Island. Uh there's Loyal Uh Laurel Island Lynx in Kingston, uh Kings, Kingsland, excuse me. And uh uh and then the St. John's County course as well. Uh they did a renovation a few years ago, and it's in great shape. So we have a lot of cool things that we can bring um you know to all of North Florida, and uh we've looking forward to you know having something new.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, it's it's we we know it's gonna be great, and and uh thank you so much for taking some time with us today. I really do appreciate it. And and we'll see you when you get up to Hilton Head in uh for icebreaker, which is which people don't realize it's right around the corner.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, it's yeah, it's not that far away. It's December. It's we're almost there.

SPEAKER_06:

Exactly. All right, buddy. You take care of yourself. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks, guys. Let's take a break from the show to hear about Strickston's ZX Mark II Irons.

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SPEAKER_04:

Well, you know, Brandon wins Director's Cup. It is still a little sour that I have to talk about director's cup, and I can't compete in it, but you know, it sounds like they have a great thing going on over there, and I I wish, you know, one year we're gonna have to make it out there to Cabot Farms because it just sounds like a blast all and together.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah. Yeah, and uh I I think maybe ha having it a a week early w will be better as well. Um for sure. And and not having the the you know one caddy for four people. Um that that r it really does slow slows everything down. I mean you you know how it was having you know p paired caddies at at streets. Um you know, you you guys were lagging behind. I had to get out and get on you to to to hustle up and and uh I know, it wasn't even my fault.

SPEAKER_04:

But we did have caddies at um the Ohio regional. Yeah. Uh Firestone. And and I can see why, because even if they are four caddies and they're running out there, you know, they're they're reading one guy's putt, and then they're going around and ringing another guy's putt, and they're going around and reading another guy's putting and you know, in B flight, you don't make every putt, and then guys mark it and then they wait for him to come back around to read his putt going back down, it's like just tap it in, bro. It's not that big of a deal. Um, so I can see where it can uh affect the pace of play. Um just get there early, play a practice round and get your caddy then.

SPEAKER_06:

And and then you you you'd be able to to you know get a little bit better uh have a better idea of of the course anyway.

SPEAKER_04:

Right. Where to hit it, where not to hit it, things like that nature.

SPEAKER_06:

Right. Well, if if you don't like talking about directors cup, uh you're you're not you're not you're you're not real excited.

SPEAKER_04:

I know. I know. You know, it it like I said earlier in in the last the last one we gotta let them win or so they're not gonna want to compete. And uh let him win. Unfortunate what happened, but uh I'll come back.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, let's go ahead and and welcome in the B flight director's cup champion this for for 2025 and um Tampa Tour Director? Mr. Shane McAdams. Shane, well welcome to the show. What's up, what's up, what's up? Before we get started, I think you and Chris have a little settling up to do. Um or did you all already settle?

SPEAKER_05:

We have not already why you gotta bring that up. You know, I I would say I would say next year we do double or nothing. I'm I'm all for it.

SPEAKER_04:

Even if you're in a different flight, but I'm all for it.

SPEAKER_05:

Honestly, I'm not a guy to take something from a guy who's down. So you you you could not compete because you know it just things didn't go right, you know, with your your health or your body, whatever was going on. And you know what? And I know darn well you would rather lose playing the game than than than withdrawing and and take that loss. I feel like you not be able to uh able to play is hard is bad enough. You know what I mean? Um so I'm not gonna kick someone that's on the ground.

SPEAKER_04:

I appreciate that. And Tim knows, like he was our check-in day two, and he texts me, hey, where are you at? And I'm like, I'm in the parking lot, give me a minute. And literally sat there with him for what, what, Tim, 15 minutes maybe? Yeah, trying to decide what I wanted to do, and then had to go to the restroom, and I think I texted him while I was in there that I wasn't gonna make it. So um I appreciate it. I I tried my best. I even had everything ready to go. Uh luckily I didn't put my clubs in the bag or have to go chase down the guy to get my clubs back. Since nothing, go get my clubs.

SPEAKER_05:

Right. I'll take a look at all that.

SPEAKER_06:

You lost your car key? Somebody turned in your car key.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, you're you're in bad shape. I was in shambles.

SPEAKER_05:

But that's that that's what I mean, man. Is if anybody can beat someone down when they're down, that that you know what? They have no value in life. You know what I mean? Life's too short. You know. You know, if if everybody's up and you're willing to willing to to to make something happen, let's do it. If not, you know what I mean? Don't back out and be okay because you just feel like your game's not good enough. None of our games are great. That's why we're amateurs. That's why we're getting flights, that's why we got champ A, B, C, and D flights. Because our little spot in our brain can only keep us in that flight. You know what I mean? We wanted our brain to get better to move us to different flights, but but it is what it is, and we just have to value it and embrace it.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, you know, and I mean, you know, I I appreciate uh I've told Tim and Jen numerous times, you know, when I told them how I was feeling, they they were checking on me probably every hour, every two hours. Um, and a lot of people, a lot of directors actually reached out to me that day and asked what happened because I was on the bottom of the of the leaderboard. Um and you know, as directors, we know when we see somebody on the bottom leaderboard, something's wrong.

SPEAKER_05:

I mean that's what I mean. So you didn't shoot a 160, so you know, you just didn't play. So it it is what it is. People want to talk crap about it. Tell them, look, come to El Paso and let me know, baby. Let's do it. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04:

That that that challenge is open anytime. But you know, we're not you're talking about me. We're here to talk about you. You know, you're you're our you're our director's champ this year. Um, I hope you're ready to defend next year. If I'm in B flat, I'm coming right after you. But uh, you know, tell us about it, tell us how how the rounds went. I know there were some difficult courses to begin with.

SPEAKER_05:

Well the the first day I played uh Robert Trent Jones. And I played okay, not great. I just couldn't sink any pet any putts.

SPEAKER_04:

Um was tough to put on that one. I played that one. That one was tough to put.

SPEAKER_05:

It w it was a little tough, and I struggled with that. I'm like, man, I'm hitting fairways, I'm hitting, I'm I'm hitting greens, and I'm three putting, three putting, three putting. It was it was like that. I'd have a 10-foot putting blow it six feet past the hole and lip it out. And um I stayed afloat and I feel like I didn't do that good until I looked and I said, Man, I'm in the top 100 with what I shot. I'm like, wow, that's great. You know what I mean? Because I felt like I was in last place, you know what I mean? Um, then the next day I went and played um Golden Bear. Man, I tore it up. I tore it up. If I told I hit I I still got my scorecard and everything. Um, if I remember correctly, I hit 14 greens and like 11 fairways. Oh wow. And I had four birdies that day and two one triple and a couple doubles and shot at 80 or 81, whatever it was. So I played really well. Um, I played really well, especially with the few batholes I had. Like I was draining 10 footers, I was making 12 foot putts. I I I had three kick ins for par or birdie with inside 24 inches. People were like, dude, that's you know, and what about what made me feel really good, the guys were nice about it, they weren't being dicks about it. They go, man, it's about time for you to go to A flight. And I'm like, man, from from you know, from your mouth to God's ears, you know what I mean? I would love to get there, even if I can get my butt kicked or come in last place, just to be at that level and earn it. Right. Um then the third, then I was like in I was like, I don't know, I was in the top 30 or whatever it was on the second day, uh on the third day, and then doing okay. Um but the issue we had on one of the holes where I we played the wrong T-box. Um I heard it happen to someone else too. I don't know what hole. Um, but the only thing I can think of is maybe when we're playing tournament the big national championship, it's not have all the tea boxes out there. Maybe someone, you know how when the lawn guys they cut the tea boxes and they stack all the teas somewhere on the edge instead of putting them out. Um maybe do that. But you know what, that's more work for somebody, and and you know darn well, and I know darn well, we don't have to do it for we don't have time to do it for our local tours and and dentists don't have time, and the people running the vent don't have the time. Of course, really don't want to send the one out there to do it. But it just sounds good, you know what I mean?

unknown:

Right.

SPEAKER_05:

But other than that, I came through and when I was done, someone says, Yo, dude, you might have one director. I'm like, huh? I'm like, that's right, Chris didn't play. So I might have a chance. And you know what? It it it changed my whole demeanor. Like I was that guy ready to leave and just go home. Get in my car and drive 380 miles. Go home because I didn't play that good. I'm just ready to go. I don't care about free lunch. I don't care about the free brownies or whatever. The brownies are great. I love the brownies. The brownies are great. They are. I mean I guess. Oh well, that's that's probably why I ate more. Um but then when someone told me you have a chance to win, and I went over there and looked, and there was only like one or two people left uh to put their score in, it changed my whole demeanor. I felt I felt relieved that wow, I actually have a chance to win something. You know what I mean? Even though I didn't win the win, you know, win coming to the top three in the national championship, but I had a chance against other people in another competition. Um and I've and it changed my whole demeanor. I was actually in a better mood. We stood around, waited, hung out uh till the end, um, did the pictures with our A-flight guy that won. And um, you know, every everybody was great. Um, I know Dennis was was having a uh you know a rough time up there doing all that stuff, you know, but he still did a good job with all his stuff that he's going through. You know, I give him kudos for that. I I mean I wish I knew a little more about what they were doing all up there to give them a little more helping him, but he had enough people helping. I think more people helping would probably be gotten away. Well, other than that, I look forward to next year. We already booked our uh our place we're staying. Good. You tell everybody if they're no they're going, go ahead and book it now because it's going to be 15 to 20% cheaper.

unknown:

Yep.

SPEAKER_05:

And you get that's true. I never thought of it that way. We're staying in the exact same place one more day, and it's 280 bucks cheaper. How about that? So, so tell you, and you know what, and and if you go through some of these places, they have a a refund policy. If you if you can't cancel, you get a full refund lones before a certain amount of days. So if something changes or whatever, as long as I cancel 30 days before the event or something, I get all my money back. You know, and um I don't know what y'all do for a living, but you know, 200 bucks is 200 bucks to me.

SPEAKER_06:

Exactly.

SPEAKER_05:

Um so I'm let I've already let a couple guys know, look, dude, if you know you're going, you want to save some money, do it.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_05:

But I got a wife that's on it.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, I'm I'm I'm glad you mentioned that because I had no idea that you know, if you did this early, you could you know get it cheaper. But again, it makes sense because they they know it's already taken care of, they don't have to worry about it, and you know even even from from the rail perspective, we'll we'll we'll take$200 less if we don't have to worry about it for 10 months.

SPEAKER_05:

And we got an extra day, too.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

You know, I'm like you can't I'm like, let's do it. So other than that, man, uh Nashville's was great. Good seeing everybody. Uh the weather couldn't been better.

SPEAKER_06:

Um, yeah, w w weather was pretty good.

SPEAKER_05:

So or you know, I think Chris next year needs to teach these people how to make tacos, though. I think all those. I think our taco day was, I think um, you know, I'm from Texas, I'm from Texas, so you know. I love my Mexican food, I love my calachis. Like Chris probably don't I mean, Chris, you know what colachies are, right? Donut shops. But Tim don't know about no calachis, you know. I think that's why Texas is one of the that's why Texas is one of the fattest states. It's because Mexican food and colaches are donuts. I mean, you don't live in Texas. You don't live in Texas, so I mean, I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_06:

How how fat could I be? I mean, if if I live in Texas.

SPEAKER_05:

Well, good thing you don't live in Texas because because at 11 o'clock you'll see you'll find a Mexican food place, and then at 8 o'clock you'll see plots and hot donuts. Um every time I go visit the family, every time I go give the f visit family, um, those uh I got a couple destinations that I hit every single time. I'm like, and they know it, you know, so I love it. I love it. Anyway. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_06:

So what do you got doing? What do you got planned for for a 2026 season?

SPEAKER_05:

Man, I got the best lineup of courses that Tampa has ever had. I got people that ain't played in three years called me up, says, yo, I've seen the schedule. You're stepping it up. I get I got, I mean, we'll see how it goes. Uh if the people show up to play, because it's cost more money to play better courses. And um, so we'll see, we'll see. So people can't say, oh, I want to skip that course because that course really isn't good. There's not a course on my schedule where they're gonna be like, ah, you know, I won't miss that one. You know, that way uh they're gonna they're they're gonna be hard-pressed to figure out which one they're gonna have to miss because they gotta go somewhere to do something with the wife or or whatever. You know, I got a couple Monday events. I got a Sunday, Monday, and I got a Monday at the Ritz Carlton members course. It was beautiful. Um so it it'll it'll be good. It'll be, I think this year is going to be my biggest year ever. Well, awesome.

SPEAKER_06:

I I know you just dropped a dropped a schedule on Facebook, and I and I love that graphic. So as I'm looking at it right now, what would you say is you can only choose one. What is the don't miss? Don't what's the one don't miss?

SPEAKER_05:

The one you don't want, I mean, the let's say let's do a one day. Let's do a one day. The one you don't want to miss is probably the Ritz Carlton. The Ritz-Carlton members course in Brayton because it's totally private. We got the whole course to ourselves. The people there are super nice. The food in the restaurant, they actually opened the restaurant up for us. Um, and the driving range, the practice area, the putting green, the chipping area is probably five, seven acres. Um, you don't even have to play golf. You can go out there and and and and and and just practice and feel satisfied with the game of golf.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_05:

When you play the Ritz Carleton. Um so that that's probably gonna be our number one and our number one um two day. Man, it's hard to say. It's also between Innisbrook and Lake Javita. Innisbrook is is the the course to play, but you know what? If you don't hit the fairway, you better bring some balls because you can be two feet off the fairway in the rough, you won't find your ball.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_05:

And when we play Copperhead, there's not a guy out there to put a flag in the ground beside your ball, so you find it. You know, and then that guy that's driving the golf car, he wants to go see his ball in the fairway while you got a line straight on your ball, past that bunker, right toward that tree. And he wants to go way left over there and look at something and take you off your line. I'm like, man, man. The rule etiquette is dude, whoever's ball is is not good, go straight for a B line pool. You know what I mean?

unknown:

Right.

SPEAKER_05:

Um so yeah, I would say I would say those are probably my number ones. But I got five number ones. You know what I mean? I got five number one tracks, one-day events that you know you just don't know what to miss and what you're gonna play and what you're not gonna play.

SPEAKER_06:

Um good things about being down there with you. I mean, you you you've got so many really good courses, too. Um you know and and you you can you can build that type of schedule. Uh, you know, we're where some places that you've you've got a handful of courses and that and that's that. And you know, so I I I like what you did in in in building this and and hope hopefully that's something that's gonna attract even even more people.

SPEAKER_05:

I think so. I think it's gonna attract more more of the of the single-digit handicappers. Because it seems like the A-flight, champ flight guys, if it's not a pristine course, they don't want to play it.

unknown:

Right.

SPEAKER_05:

Um so I've hit those guys up and say, yo, look at the schedule. What's your excuse now? Let's do it. Let's sign up, let's do it, come out here and compete. Um and we're gonna see, I already uh it it's happening, it's happening. Um and if it doesn't, you know, it is what it is. I I tell these courses, look, if I don't bring uh this many guys, um you can we can switch it to tea times by Wednesday. By Wednesday, if I don't have the minimum you want to put out, and I only got you know 50 guys, and you don't want to screw things up with your members and all that stuff, I'm like you do tea times from 8 30 to whatever it is, 8 30, 8 38, and you know what, you put your members out in front of us and put your people out behind us. Um, it sucks for me because it I gotta be there longer, but I tell these guys, look, if you want shotgun, we gotta meet these numbers.

unknown:

Right.

SPEAKER_05:

You know? Um because now January, February, March, and some of April, the snowbirds are here.

SPEAKER_06:

Yes.

SPEAKER_05:

And golf goes up almost double. So January, February, March is the hardest to fill tournaments because of pricing, and they just don't want us because their members are playing. And uh they don't want to be hassled, they don't want if they want to play at nine o'clock, they want to play at nine o'clock. I get it. I mean, I don't get it because I'm I got that money to be that kind of member. So so we'll see, we'll see. I'm shooting, I'm shooting for 200 plus members next year.

SPEAKER_06:

Okay.

SPEAKER_05:

Um I would love to have 321, I think it is. Just so I can wow everybody at our dinner in Hilton Head. You know what I mean?

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

I don't know. I mean, Florida should have it. You you think about it. As many golf courses there are in ten square miles. I mean, I can drive four miles and hit four golf courses in all four directions from my house. Some of them might not be that good, but you know what? It's still golf. That's what I tell people. It's still golf, you still gotta play the same role, we gotta play the same T-box, the same fairway. You gotta learn how to play in these conditions.

unknown:

Right.

SPEAKER_05:

And that's what I tell these people. It's not just about playing great golf courses, it's about competing. You you know what I mean? Um so we'll see. We'll see. I'm hoping for the best. My wife's hoping for the best. Well and uh we love it. We love we love it.

SPEAKER_06:

You really guys you guys do really do a good job. Um in you know, in i in Tampa. Uh you know, you this you're going to your fourth year as tour directors now?

SPEAKER_05:

I think it's our I think our fifth's coming up, right?

SPEAKER_06:

Fifth year. I mean, you know, what one thing I wanted to to to mention before we let you go is you you've been around the tour since 2011, Chris. I don't know if you realize this, but but Shane's been with us since 2011. Okay. He has 284 total rounds. That's it. That's there's some okay, so for so four that's 14 years. Do do do the math on that. Shane plays a lot of golf.

SPEAKER_04:

Wait, hold on. 2011.

SPEAKER_06:

That's 14 years.

SPEAKER_04:

And you said how many rounds? 284. That's pretty good. 284 rounds. Okay. Then multiply that as a minimum of$100 a round. Let's see how much money I know. I mean, since I produce since 2014, I have 235 rounds.

SPEAKER_06:

Okay, so that that comes out to 25.8 rounds a year. That's pretty good. That's a lot of cough. Yeah, yeah, do it. And and and just Shane, that goes back to some of the things that we've we've talked about in the past, you know, in in terms of and you were doing this before you were a tour director, but in terms of being a tour director, being out there and being visible and doing those things, and you know, when when you're playing, now that's just that's just tournament rounds, but when you go out and you play your regular rounds and you're talking to other people, you know, bringing people on or taking people for the tour out and spending a day with them playing golf, that's part of it. And um you guys are doing a really good job.

SPEAKER_05:

I tell you one thing I do. When I go out and play, I like to go out and practice by myself with people I do not know. Because if I play with my buddies, it's uh a lot of times or whatever, especially during the week. During the week, I play people I do not know. I just show up in my golf course 3, 3:30, 4 o'clock, and they team me with a two-some or threesome or whatever it is, and I go out and play. Um, I don't tell people I run golf tournaments.

unknown:

Right.

SPEAKER_05:

And I just play golf. And and then after, you know, seven or eight holes, and they say, Man, you're you're you play the ball down, you don't give yourself nothing, you cut everything out. Um, I just you know I tell them I play uh I compete in tournaments. And then if they're interested, I tell them a little bit about it. And um, you know, and if I feel like, you know, this is this is a guy, I'm I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna hook him. He's done. He's done. I'm gonna hook him. He's gonna come play. Um and and that's that that's how I that's how I guarantee you, you know, we we try to you know give an incentive for people who bring new players. I Marie told me, my wife, that I'm disqualified. I'm disqualified for getting that kick back. I'm like, it's bull crap, man. I'm like, man, what the heck? So it's funny. I told her, I said, well, I'm gonna start putting, tell them to tell them I'm somebody else, like one of my good friends, Mike. I'm gonna say, I'll tell him this guy, you know, and I'll tell Mike, look, dude, you got uh 100 bucks coming, you know, give me 50 bucks of it, you know. You may fifty my wife's like, oh heck no, I'm gonna be watching y'all this.

SPEAKER_03:

See?

SPEAKER_05:

But I I tell you a little a little something funny. Um couple days ago, I went out and I got a little little little greenside bunker bag. Okay. Little, and I put my five iron, my pitching wedge, my my 56 degree, my putter in there. And I go to walk, play nine holes. I get teamed up with some kid, six foot three, big kid. I was thinking maybe maybe college or high school. He uh he hit the ball, I hit the ball with a five iron, you know, and we're walking down the fairway, and this is and he goes, I'm like, oh, he looks like you play a lot of golf, huh? Where do you play? You high school, college? And he goes, Oh, I'm I'm I'm high school, I'm a senior, and I'm ranked number one.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh well.

SPEAKER_05:

I said, Really? I said, Well, I'm ranked number one too. He just kind of looks at me. I said, Yeah, well, we're gonna see if you can keep up, buddy. And he looked at my bag with four, five, four clubs in it, and all of a sudden I go into compete mode. This is some kid hitting the ball 280, 290 off the T-box, and I got nothing but a five-iron. I beat him by six strokes on nine holes.

SPEAKER_06:

How about that?

SPEAKER_05:

And he and he yeah, and he looked at me when we were done. He's like, dude, I'm glad nobody's here to see. He said, Man, how did you do it? I said, Well, you gotta learn to compete.

unknown:

Right.

SPEAKER_05:

You gotta learn to compete. You gotta learn how to play under pressure. I said, You screwed up when you said you were number one. Because everybody wants to beat number one. Don't ever go up and say you're number one. Because there's a there's a bullseye on you. I say, Well, me, guess what? I'm coming for you. Ask Chris, he'll tell you. Couldn't even find the parking lot. Lost the keys. Well, anyway, you know we got the little joke in there.

SPEAKER_06:

Exactly.

SPEAKER_04:

Hey, I'm I'm all for it. I did it to myself.

SPEAKER_05:

No, I get it. I get it. I get it. So anyway, um, that's about it was going on um here in Tampa. I I can't wait my first season, my first tournament. Um I'll probably sit the first two out um and help because we got new guys coming, and I want to be there, shake their hands, um, and and thank them for coming out and and putting a name with the face and me so they get to meet me, then instead of just see Marie and get their money and you know what I mean. I I want them to see that we're well organized and we value them. And um it just makes it harder on me to come back and fight for points and stuff. You know what I mean? Uh now I got I now I'm the underdog, now I gotta come back. Oh man. And I do that every year, so you know what? I win a little bit of money every year on the payouts for the points leaders and stuff like that, and I missed tournaments. So guess what, fellas? Hey, chance. So hello. Hello.

SPEAKER_06:

So you bet you you better win. Because it you shane's gonna be on your tail very shortly.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, I'm coming. I'm coming.

SPEAKER_06:

All right, brother. With that, thanks so much for spending some time with us. I I appreciate it, and and I know I'm gonna see you at some point this year. So um yeah, looking forward to seeing how things go. All right, buddy.

SPEAKER_05:

Definitely, you know. Um, y'all keep doing what you're doing, and uh Chris, if I get some extra money, you know, I'd love to come out there and play in some of them courses you got. I see the pictures on Instagram. Um I I it's it's easier said than done. Right. On the days we don't have event weekends.

SPEAKER_06:

You gotta cut the great.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, we cut off. You know, we're we're we're doing stuff. And it's like being plumber. Yeah, being a plum tri there. Um, I'm an electrician, so now I call myself a plum trician because now I can I can solder copper. All right, well look, y'all do y'all saying I appreciate what y'all do. You know, y'all, y'all, y'all send this out. Let's let's let's keep pushing uh the numbers, keep pushing the players, and uh as long as we don't give up, we can't lose.

unknown:

Exactly.

SPEAKER_05:

You know it? Very good. You know it? So keep pushing, and then you know, thank God every day for our health that we can still swing in golf club. Yes, sir. Take care. We'll talk we'll talk to you soon. All right, off to the family. Say hello.

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SPEAKER_04:

Man, you know, Shane Shane's a great guy, and I'm glad that he was able to win it this year. Um, but it just sounds like you know, they're doing some good things up there in Tampa. Um, if you haven't gone out there, and I'm glad they have Innsbruck back because that was the course I was supposed to go play right before COVID shut everything down. And um, you know, if he continues to have that on there, I might have to make that a a stop as well, maybe make a family trip out there to Florida.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, I mean, so I I played his courses out there at Innsbruck, and they're they're I mean they're phenomenal courses, they're they're really good. And uh glad they're back. But again, you know, what what he's done with the schedule and um you know what would Brandon and and Steve Calhoun have done with um you know combining North Central Florida and Jacksonville and adding some some of those new courses there. Um I re I really do think that's got an opportunity to to to to grow membership. Oh yeah, for sure. All the way across. So uh you know good good for them. And yeah, again, let's go back to Shane and Marie for a second. I you know I I think that a lot of times, you know, Tampa from the Florida perspective is somewhat forgotten, you know, because of uh Orlando and and uh and Jacksonville. You know, I think they they get the majority of the um of the accolades. But you know Brand Brand and Steve and Marie and Shane in Tampa, they they do such a good job. And uh I I hope they understand that how much we appreciate what what they do. Um and you know, what one of the things that Shane does, Shane, and I say Shane, Shane and Marie do, um, you know, watch your Facebook page over the course of the year. You know, not only do are do they stay up on on it and posting things, um, the graphic that they posted today earlier was really good, but that they also um post tips. They they post uh all kinds of informational type things to to keep people involved and engaged uh throughout the throughout the season. Um you know, high highlighting different players. I mean they they they do a lot of really good things that that again, I I think sometimes um the average person, the average member, the average tour director, it just goes unnoticed.

SPEAKER_04:

Right. I mean we definitely need to I need to follow them because I'm always looking for different ideas, especially for social media. Um it's kind of not my my best thing. Um but they've always done great things.

SPEAKER_06:

Well back up, because you know how I feel about you to begin with. I mean you you do a lot of really good things, but that maybe not necessarily be social media, but your emails, right the the emails that you do, phenomenal. Right, they they they really are. And as long as as long as what it if if what you're doing is resonating with your with your players and your members You can't get any better than that. You know, may maybe you'll be able to attract some people with with social media, maybe maybe not. And that's where you've got to look at, okay, maybe try some things, if it works, great, put some effort or some and that don't take that the wrong way, effort.

SPEAKER_04:

Right, right, right. No, I get you.

SPEAKER_06:

But you know, if it's if it's gonna get results, great. If it's not gonna get results, you know, put put that time and energy somewhere else where where you're gonna see results.

SPEAKER_04:

I was gonna ask him, and then I mean, but we know this Shane can talk, he loves to talk. Um, I love how they do the opening stretch and the closing stretch, you know, kind of splitting into two different ones. Um I thought about doing that. I think uh, you know, there's gonna be a lot of ideas flying through the Ryder Cup for uh me and Arizona, but um God yeah, Florida's doing. My wife loves to go to Florida, so do the kids. Um you know, if if everything pays off, maybe I'll have to make a long trip and visit both both tours. Make it work.

SPEAKER_06:

We're not that far away. I know.

SPEAKER_04:

I know. You you every time you keep reminding me, you make me more and more nervous.

SPEAKER_06:

So well you know aga again, so this is the first episode of our fourth year. And you know, we we instituted the the director's cup last year, and so we still have some more to get on. Um, but this is the time to to really kick off. If you I mean if you as as a player, hurry up and register. Yes. And I don't know if you know this, but we got a number of new tour directors coming on this year. I've heard yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

I've heard uh what do they call it? Whispers. But um you know, every new tour director, it's always great to have. Um they get to learn a lot from all of us and uh kind of you know make it their own little baby, which is which is cool.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah. You know, so that let's just run through the list here real quick. Atlanta, which we know about. Um, we we we we've known this for a while, and and for those that don't know, this is tr truly the first year where I'm not gonna be a tour director. Um I'm okay with that. I'm I'm gonna miss a lot of the uh you know, the tour and stuff and that those types of things. But um, you know, the the new tour directors there, uh Chris and Mike Webb, they're gonna do a phenomenal job. They've they've been around for forever, so so they they know what to expect. Uh Houston's gonna have a new tour director. Uh, you know, uh Brandon and and Steve, um Calhoun have kind of you know merged uh North Central Florida and Jacksonville. Um Milwaukee's gonna have a new tour director, Jersey's gonna have a new tour director, New York's gonna have a new tour director, St. Louis, um, you know, Tyler Cardwell, you know, I I've talked about him a lot. Um uh he he he just couldn't do it anymore with with with with uh um new job, new responsibilities, and that's just kinda kind of the way it goes. And not that I'm not gonna miss any of the other tour directors, but you know gonna miss him for for a number of different reasons. Uh senior Michigan's gonna have a new tour director. Dan Snaught moved to to Florida, um, and senior Southeast Virginia, new tour director. So um look looking forward to to to to talking to these new new tour directors, see what they've got going on, and um introducing them to the to the podcast family if whether whether they're ready or not. How about that?

SPEAKER_04:

It it should you know we need to tell Dennis to put it in their contract. Once they become a new tour director, they're automatically have to be on the podcast.

SPEAKER_06:

Have to be, have to be. Whatever that means, right? You know, right. So so well again, I'm I'm really looking forward to to this year and see what seeing what's gonna happen. Um and for you and and your and your blind dates.

SPEAKER_04:

Um They're not gonna be blind in pretty soon. They're gonna be able to see. Um I I mean, this is the fourth year we talked about this, and it was the fourth year that I said I want to start early and I don't, uh, because I enjoy my time off. Um well-deserved time off. Yes. But um next year. Next year I'm gonna start on time.

SPEAKER_06:

For real, though. For real this time, for sure.

SPEAKER_04:

For real this time for the fifth time.

SPEAKER_06:

Exactly. It's really gonna happen this time.

SPEAKER_04:

Um I mean, unless you want to do it for me.

SPEAKER_06:

No, that's I mean, here's the reality, but it's hard.

SPEAKER_04:

I mean, it's just it um it is because a lot of things change. And you know, um, at you get to know a bunch of these golf pros, and then you call them the next year, and oh they're no longer here. They left to go to this course, they left here, and he got started all over and calling the course, and yeah, there's these available, and then you're calling another course. Oh, I can't do this day. Okay, can you give this date? Let me see if this course will switch me this date.

SPEAKER_06:

Like, it's just it's not and you and so each market I think is has their own challenges, has its own culture and challenges. But one thing one thing with with you and where you're at, you're also are dealing with a very transient membership base, too, because of the the military base and and th and other things that go on there. Um so so you you know, there's a lot of times that you've you've got to almost start from scratch, or half half start from scratch. I mean, you you've got your core members that that live there and are there um you know, or go anywhere. And when I say that, they're not moving out anywhere, right?

SPEAKER_04:

Um, right.

SPEAKER_06:

But you but you also have the the other half that is is transient based on on their their job and life circumstances.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

I it's it's ever evolving. Right.

SPEAKER_06:

So and you've got it's not like you you also have limited courses. It's not like you're Tampa, not like you're Atlanta, not like you're not not like your Phoenix or Tucson, right? I mean I mean you you you're you're if you're in Phoenix or Tucson, you can't you can't you know go around the corner without hitting a new golf course. Uh Tampa Florida's that same way, Orlando's the same way, uh appears the same way. I mean it's so it's I mean you you've got a lot of other variables and you know so when I I I think when when players go to other tours and they see things that are different, yeah, some things should be the same. But players understand that when you go to a different tour, there's there's that different, you know, culture, d different uh uh other things that you may not have to deal with one one tour to to another. And uh uh but but the experience should should always be the same.

SPEAKER_04:

Right, right, right. It is. And you know, you you come into a spot where we're trying to build these schedules during holiday season. So a lot of guys go out of town or courses are closed or whatnot. Um I'm excited, dude. I'm actually looking at it right now and I I love the way it's shaping out. And um can't wait. Like I always say, the challenge is open. Anybody want to bring some players to El Paso? We can do a little side team event, we'll figure it out.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, you know, the the other really good thing is you know, we're we're not too far too far out from the icebreaker. I mean I'm see if I can pull that out now. So let's see here. January 10th and 11th.

SPEAKER_04:

That's insane.

SPEAKER_06:

So 31, 41. We're 45 days out. No, we're no we're it's we're we're we're 41 days out. That's what we are.

SPEAKER_04:

Yep. That's insane.

SPEAKER_06:

Ready go, man. So what specials are you running?

SPEAKER_04:

Membership special? Uh membership hundred bucks. We're doing again, we're doing the the race to one hundred for uh us versus Arizona. We beat them last year by one day. From what I was told, it was a couple hours, honestly. Um, so race to 100 winning tour gives away an entry fee to our dual event in Arizona. Okay. Um and yeah, I have a good feeling we're gonna do very well.

SPEAKER_06:

I hope so. For your sake.

SPEAKER_04:

Very well. I also give away like first fifty get into the raffle, first seventy-five get into the raffle, and uh we'll see how it goes. I've had a lot of interest from other people outside of my membership that I've heard from a friend. So um add them to the email list and hopefully they they get hooked.

SPEAKER_06:

I know they will. That's for sure. Alright, my friend. Good seeing you. Glad you had good Thanksgiving, and we will touch base again here real soon. Real soon. Um send me some pictures so I can get this thing done.

SPEAKER_04:

Some pictures.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, some health pictures.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, yeah, that's not happening. Use your AI. I can't wait to see this. It it happens every year.

SPEAKER_06:

Hold on a second. Let's let me see something here.

SPEAKER_04:

No, no, we don't have time.

SPEAKER_06:

We don't have time for that.

SPEAKER_04:

No.

SPEAKER_06:

Okay. Well, uh tell Diana, I said hi and and and thank you for um you know g giving you up for for the next year to do this and all the time that you put into this. Um, I appreciate it, and uh we'll talk to you soon.

SPEAKER_04:

Likewise, brother, be safe. Bye-bye.

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